m104 engine swap

__________________. Im gonna have to work my ass off to be able to do the work on this benzbut it will all be worth it in the end. and the other thing you have a mercedes not a honda or a toyota if you want performance and the tuning spirit get a honda.. these cars arent really geared toward performance and to modify them for it will cost you some change. Therefore, nothing but good old venerable striahgt 6s. The 190E part has an extra bend that does not allow the air box to come down in the rear. While there Auto-Gruppen persuaded the turbocharged 3.2 L Mercedes M104 inline-six into making 953 hp and 1081 Nm (797 lb-ft) of torque to the wheels on 2.14 bar (31 psi) of boost from a EFR9180 turbocharger. Since then the car has seen a lot of action. The alternator for the W124 will work, but the wires will be kinked in an unnatural position. How to get your M119 5.0L V8 running optimally? Remove with transmission attached. you have a 2.6 sportline 5spd they are super had to come by( ask me how i know) i would leave it alone and do the maintenance to it. I have a friend who had a 3.0L from a 300E in his 190 and it was pretty quick too. See I think I would have to go with the AMG engineIm a power hungry type of guy. Yes, I'm putting the 1995 E420 Special Edition on the block for a number of reasons which I'm not going to expound on here about. It barely sticks now when floored. Auto-Gruppen tuned the engine on a Emtron KV8 ECU . Makes a fantastic daily driver. JavaScript is disabled. After the legendary E30 and its potent inline-four, then the successful inline-sixes of the E36 and E46, the step up to a V8 did seem a bit unavoidable. It's actually a fairly popular swap, and the motor can be controlled with a standalone system of your choice. I did all the swaps and all the work myself. We are a participant in the Amazon Services LLC Associates Program, an affiliate advertising program designed to provide a means for us to earn fees by linking to Amazon.com and affiliated sites. I remember seeing an AMG 190E on ebay, fuly decked out by AMG and Renntech a while back. https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/www.d-td-class/2408521-e36-amg-project.html?amp=1, nos AMG Bodykits C126 W126 W124 W201 W116 R107. For reference: I've owned/own 2 M104 swapped 190Es. The flywheels and driven plates (for the automatic) have large metal ridges that trigger a sensor for the ignition system. I have a 1990 190E 2.6the straight six just isnt cutting it performance wise. Of course what excites us the most is the Mercedes 3.2 L M104 (M104.99x) inline-six sitting under the hood. Lower engine from hoist into engine bay and align motor mounts. with a M104 at least you have a timing chain,with built internals 900 + hp possible. Behind the engine sits a five-speed manual transmission taken from a BMW E46 3.0d and connected via a bell housing from a Mercedes 2.7 CDI. You are using an out of date browser. Hello S70/2, Im new to this forum, well any forum in fact but I need a lot of help, Im currently undertaking an m104 hfm swap, the motor is in and have managed to wire it to the extent where it turns, fuel pump responds to m104 fp relay but cant seem to get it to spark, Ive currently taken all the wirering back out to start again, I have full wirering diagrams printed out, one thing Im confused with is how the ecu is supplied with power? Im very glad Ive discovered this thread as when I started the swap in January this wasnt posted yet, Im mechanically minded but new to cars and electrics in general, any pointer will be much appreciated, thanks! Bolt starter to transmission later. The upper hose needs to be simply matched to the original length of the 190E part and the lower hose comes out to around 20cm (I would try 19.5cm for an easier fit. I'm sure you can find a high mileage 87 TD car and just rebuild the engine and possibly even do a trans swap. Learn how your comment data is processed. We are a participant in the Amazon Services LLC Associates Program, an affiliate advertising program designed to provide a means for us to earn fees by linking to Amazon.com and affiliated sites. As @a777fan said, there are multiple discussions of these types of engine swaps on the forum. For those unfamiliar with the project, its powered by a turbocharged 3.2 L M104 inline-six producing 800 horsepower and 930 Nm (685 lb-ft) of torque and Tex Racing T101a four-speed dogbox. ya dont destroy a 5-speed sportline. Let's see .. Palli, you're in the correct forum. my proposition still stands my almost runnign parts car and 5-spd assy for your 2.6 5-spd. Im no where near having all of the funds to do thisproject withwere probably looking at like a year or two down the road. This Nissan 350Z was built to drift by Yaroslav Kremets from Nomotors in Kyiv, Ukraine. If you are picky about colors and options, plan on a nationwide search that may take 6 months or longer. I wasn't kidding about a 6-12 month search nationwide. I suppose that would work, I'm not sure why the 2.0 steering column is different than 2.3 or 2.6. The factory VQ35DE V6 has given way to a turbocharged Mercedes M104 inline-six mated to a Samsonas H-pattern transmission. Haven't taken it to the track yet but I know it has over 220bhp. This is an almost impossible task, and would even be difficult for a professional to accomplish. The Fora platform includes forum software by XenForo. Additionally, the high pressure hose is slightly longer and uses a 90 degree bend that is not compatible with a 190E 2.6 A/C condenser. Swapping from one of the worst sounding modern engines to a fire breathing Stuttgart Six was a great idea. 4 bangers can be quite powerful.. You are using an out of date browser. you have a diamond in the rough. Secure engine to hoist and lift to remove. 120492018_1240624106295229_4604718134584404570_n.jpg. I have a mint condition M104 I6 3.2L and the transmission is mint, so is the diff. The engine produces 468 horsepower and 580 Nm (427 lb-ft) of torque to the rear wheels thanks to the turbocharger producing 0.7 bar (10.1 psi) of boost. You will need to reclock the alternator by removing the screws holding the 2 halves of the alternator together and turning them to match how a 190E alternator looks. This site uses Akismet to reduce spam. Mine isn't an LE though, just a 190e sportline. Connect oil pressure and oil level sensor wires, Bolt wire bracket to rear of intake manifold (10mm), Connect alternator wires coming from right fender, Connect rear crankshaft position sensor wire, Connect front crankshaft position sensor under X11 diagnostic port, Connect heater return hose at back of engine, Use W124 water reservoir overflow hose and 190E valve from thermostat cover, Use T connector at front vacuum nipple to connect to EZL and EGR/Smog pump solenoid, Connect black striped white vacuum line from throttle body to check valve at fender behind headlight, Connect 3 vacuum line at rear of intake manifold. Navigation Menu . Learn how your comment data is processed. All new control harnesses would need to be fabricated for all of the car's systems and the battery and cables run to the trunk. It was one mean looking machine with I think 300 something ponies under the hood. Remember that according to any 400E/E420 owner, it is 90% of a 500E !! Mrten Stngberg and his team at Team Lovetap in Sweden spent the off-season rebuilding the engine, transmission, and trunk area in their 2003 Mercedes CLK. Swapped! I've always wondered why people make the wagons accept V8s when it might be easier to make the sedan a wagon (shooting brake, if you will). I have a 3.8 V8 from a 1981 380SL in my 190. Mercedes M104 make a good tuning project and with carefully chosen sports modifications like remapping, turbo upgrades and camshafts you will substantially increase your driving opportunities. In addition, the engine carrier and mounting setup I believe is different between the V-8 and inline-six models? Fuel is fed to the inline-six through Bosch 2200 cc injectors and Nuke Performance fuel rail. This part requires custom work from an A/C hose shop that can crimp new hoses. Install without transmission. My typo error corrected (w210 ===>w201). Quote: Originally Posted by oldsinner111. articles/m104.98x_motor_swap_in_a_190e.txt, W201 (specifically 1992-1993 190E 2.6, other models need adaptation). as for fitting in the 104 engine, it is anyone's guess whether the manifold and down pipes will clear the steering box. Well, I am right with you. 1990 190E 2.6 oil pressure problem uh-oh! I think mine should run 14's no problem at the track. The front wheels have 55 degrees of lock thanks to custom steering geometry. Also depends if you are willing to take on a "mechanic's special" that is cheap because they couldn't figure out what's wrong with it. Mrten competes in a special 2003 Mercedes CLK we first covered in 2015. I can still find/source a good E420, any idea of the prices how much should I be paying for a car with not near to immaculate but runs and drives strong with no rust spots and corrosions with no accidents or damage reports. The sedan originally came with a 3.0 L M103 12v inline-six but was replaced with a 3.0 L M104.980 24v inline-six. Fuel is fed to the inline-six through Bosch 2200 cc injectors and Nuke Performance fuel rail. I believe the lotus elan used a turbocharged or supercharged 4 banger which produced nice power. i'd ditch the 18's and go with 16 or 17's you really don't want to tear apart a good working 2.6 5-spd because they are getting harder and harder to come by. Way back in 2007, we were presented with an interesting engine swap. 1996 Volvo 855GLT, 1993 MB 190e 2.3 8v, 1998 Subaru Outback SUS, 1991 BMW 525, 1998 MB C230. When you find one, buy it. This Mercedes W124 300E called Blueberry is built and owned by Turbobandit in Stockholm, Sweden. as i have said, the chassis for 2.6 vs all other models are different. This BMW E46 has spent the past two years being built by VRP Fab in Lublin, Poland for drifting. M104.98x Motor Swap in a 190E One of the most common engine swaps for a 190E is the installation of the bigger M103 3.0L motor. The car is powered by a 3.2 L M104.992 inline-six using stock pistons, forged 144 mm rods, main girdle, custom intake and exhaust manifolds, custom dry sump system, and BorgWarner EFR 9180 turbocharger. Nissan 350Z Gets Turbo Mercedes M104 By Michael Van Runkle Published Jun 7, 2020 The Merc powered 350Z pumps out an impressive 510 horsepower and 464 lb-ft of torque, which is much more than the stock Nissan mill. CLK, W209. The ol' girl has probably done around 8-10k trouble free miles since the swap, until the air pump bearing decided to retire and smoked the belt. Which is still ~1/3 of what the same condition E500E would be. The team also includes mechanics Christopher Reinholdsson, Robin Carlsson, Stefan Engstrm, Jesper Jumisko, Edvin Olsson, Joel Haglund, and media/spotter Sebastian Simonsson. i have the m102 2.0 in the car as is and i have heard that the problem with having the smaller motor rather than the 2.3 or 2.6 is that the steering box will cause a problem when fitting the engine? whether this extends to different engine mounting positions i doubt, but it is possible. I wish I could have a M3 or Audi TT, but dont have the cash. go the suggested 400E + LH M119 route, which gives you an 80-90% chance of success. Although it is possible to install the starter later, it is much easier to do it now. Black striped white vacuum line for throttle body, Remove overflow pipe to coolant reservoir, Wiring under both headlights and loom ties, Bolt on driver side securing pipe to chassis, Disconnect supply and return lines on pump, Return behind ignition coil, 17mm and 14mm, Disconnect main engine wiring and set aside, Disconnect auxiliary wiring and set aside, Cruise control servo (8 pin connector under ABS pump), Crankshaft position sensor (front) underneath X92, Disconnect exhaust downpipes from exhaust manifold, Disconnect transmission shifter linkage(s), Suggest removing entirely to avoid bending the rods accidentally, Disconnect transmission slave cylinder fluid line (manuals only). Although this is still a tiny bit longer and almost doesn't fit. Source: Nomotors.ua and Mt Nuszer via Piotr. Don't tear into the 190e yet, I would like to purchase it from you ! changing the clutch and pulling out m104 engine on my 2.0 W201 190Eswap,320e,e320,w124,m104,m104 3.2,mercedes-benz,plasme cutting,mercedes,,190,190e,. I haven't done much looking into the nitty gritty details myself when it comes to the electrical side of the swap, I just know it's becoming increasingly more prevalent. It has a double overhead cam design with 4 valves per cylinder, and used a crossflow cylinder head. Convert the E320 into a coupe, THEN do the engine swap. The car is powered by a 3.2 L M104.992 inline-six using stock pistons, forged 144 mm rods, main girdle, custom intake and exhaust manifolds, custom dry sump system, and BorgWarner EFR 9180 turbocharger. '87--190E 2.3-16v(being rebuilt), '99--C230 Kompressor. I would like to put an engine in mine that puts out at leat 300maybe 255+. I heard the M104 is the same longblock engine as the M103 with the same fuel delivery system, except it is bored out for more displacement, and has DOHC 4 valves per cyllinder instead of SOHC 2 per cyllinder, but is essentially the same engine. If you want one super clean AND fully sorted it might be closer to $10k. The stock 3.8L Euro has 218bhp and I have flowmaster exhaust, an intake from a 420SEL, (It bolts right on), and a crane cams ignition. Well my 93 had a 2.85:1 rear diff, and rear sub frame mods r highly recommendedSuspension, well Eibachs is what I useIf you want roll bars, Delsing 500E rollbars, with the ends cut a little to fit the 190E. The M104.98x now has an updated version of CIS that is not directly compatible with the older version. All bolt-in, no welding required. The engine is mated to a Tex Racing T101a four-speed dogbox using a Sachs Motorsports pressure plate, Tenaci Motorsport 200 mm clutch discs and flywheel. Take whatever "positive vibes" translates to monetarily and treat your 036 with a barrage of restorative upgrades and needed and not-so-needed service and maintenance and probably still have some money to buy $5k euro headlights. Get the full engine harness, the ezl unit, and the ecu. W203 Mercedes M104 3.2 TURBO Build In 10 Minutes (The German 2JZ) Ricer Benz 3.94K subscribers Join Subscribe 1.4K Share 85,007 views Apr 16, 2022 2004 Mercedes W203 with a M104 3.2l swap &. Is removal and shorter belt fitting possible? It may not display this or other websites correctly. I could make a you-tube video to document the process with lots of "Hey Guys today I'll just pop the motor in" and a mere few tea breaks later the engine will be in and it will all be easy peasy time for epic burnouts. Simple and cheap power however since I wasnt inclined to do a engine swap I bought a E420. MBWorld member Gen3Benz had the ambitious plan of stuffing an LS1 V8 motor under the hood of his W201. The car has been completely rebuilt with upgraded suspension, brakes and drift-spec steering. Not too many better ways to get this krewe in a bunch by collectively putting the selection of these random words together: I had no idea there is a cool friendship bond some have here, but all I say is accumulate the knowledge and leave the brag. Unrelated but tied to the M104 is the crumbling wiring issue, and evaporator failure. The engine produces 510 horsepower and 630 Nm to the rear wheels. The engine produces 510 horsepower and 630 Nm to the rear wheels. Mrten will lower the power to around 860 whp while . Time laps build of my 190e 3.2 M104engine swap,mercedes,190e,mercedes 190e engine swap m104.942 test,mercedes-benz m104 engine,w201 m111 m104 190e mercedes s. Would you recomend doing this swap? The swap from the smaller 2.6L M103 to a 3.0L M103 is a direct bolt-on swap (assuming the engines from the same cutoff years are used) and gives a small increase of around 30HP. The body features a custom widebody designed by SeidoWorks. How much power can you get out of the 16v? His forum name is SG Motorsports. We are a participant in the Amazon Services LLC Associates Program, an affiliate advertising program designed to provide a means for us to earn fees by linking to Amazon.com and affiliated sites. Use it however you wish or block it off. Is there a cross reference for this or is the ebay special the best bet? i'll trade you my 87 parts car (engine and trans and body in tact) and a 5spd +shifter assy for you to tear apart and modify for your 2.6 5-spd see everyone wins!! Engine Swap Depot. This site uses Akismet to reduce spam. Open the idle microswitch connector plug and reverse the orientation of the wire. Originally Posted by Kestas. Im leaning towads the AMG C36, sounds like a real nice setup. Anyone with experience in HFM swaps care to shed some light as to exactly what I need to pull out of the donor 124? The car rides on a Wisefab front and rear suspension with BC Racing adjustable coilovers. The original 190E engine support brackets must be brought over from the original motor as well as the motor mounts. Yeah, I've got a thread going over there too. And still, the purists cried, "Heresy!" Not to mention, but on the 500E, the computers are located under the hood, and the battery is located in the trunk. He is an electrical wizard. This site uses cookies to help personalise content, tailor your experience and to keep you logged in if you register. What engine can fit into this car? We are a participant in the Amazon Services LLC Associates Program, an affiliate advertising program designed to provide a means for us to earn fees by linking to Amazon.com and affiliated sites. Has a black W201FTW vanity plate. Of course what excites us the most is the Mercedes 3.2 L M104 (M104.99x) inline-six sitting under the hood. I want mercedes V8 power, or at least AMG 6 cylinder. Unfortunatly, I have done tons of research, and it all depends on how much you want to spend. If it was a black 2.6, with gray cladding, that's John's car from the over on the rev. :p, What about suspension and the rearend? these are quite uncommon. Seen one in the "legends of the autobahn" car show a couple of years ago in Carmel/Monterey. The steering box is in fact in a different location on the M102 cars versus the 6-cylinder M103 cars. It's like obsidian gray in color so it can't be, then again it's been repainted, but I think the same color. Head gasket and oil leaks are common to both engines. Affectionately called the LS-190, the swap looked to be carefully planned out, and rather well executed. In sweden used m103/m104 cost about 250-750 $. Hello, I'm new to the Mercedes world, just picked up a 1993 190e 2.6 sportline 5spd manual for my daily driver. M104.981ish 3.0L Engine Block Moar. Not needed anyhow. The car rides on a Wisefab front and rear suspension with BC Racing adjustable coilovers. As, If the OP sends me a container with subject vehicle, m119.970 + donor 400E and $25k I can make it work in a few months. Source: Team Lovetap and Team Lovetap FB page. Biggest problem isint fuel, if u cant retard ignition according to boost then eventually u have some major engine failure. If you really want to get speed though, deff change the brakes. If it doesn't stall leave it alone!!!!!!!!!!!! If I was ever going swap in a V8 into a W124 sedan it would be a Chevy LS motor. Lengthen and connect the 3 prong connector under fuel distributor for airflow potentiometer (brown/green, blue/black, blue/green), Lengthen and connect the 1 prong coolant temperature sensor (green), Lengthen and connect the 2 prong coolant temperature sensor (brown, green), Lengthen and connect cold start valve wire, Longer CIS 4 prong coolant temperature sensor. you should check on 190rev there's more tuning types there than here. So one day we decided that that nobody has ever ( that I've seen) built and successfully completed a 500e wagon. Connect single pin connector by ignition coil, Connect AC compressor wires (blue/green, white, blue/red), Connect throttle position wires (brown/yellow, brown, gray/yellow). Sweden for a dyno tune. ugh! Bolt starter to the engine before lowering. That was later replaced with a turbocharged M104.992 inline-six now making 1000+ horsepower on 8.7:1 compression and MegaSquirt MS3X ECU. The sedan originally came with a 3.0 L M103 12v inline-six but was replaced with a 3.0 L M104.980 24v inline-six. Mrten Stngberg and his team at Team Lovetap in Sweden spent the off-season rebuilding the engine, transmission, and trunk area in their 2003 Mercedes CLK. BMW broke the hearts of many fans worldwide with the debut of the E90 generation of their M3 sports car. via Engine Swap Depot One thing i forgot to mention, the sway bar and the skid plate needs to be modified but thats easy peasy. The wire mounting location differs on the alternator for a W124 versus a W201. Will always be cheaper to get what you want from the get go, If a wagon is your thing, maybe find a junkyard S124 and V8 124 with a crappy body and just frankenstein them? The turbocharger system consists of a TB90 90 mm turbocharger, 60 mm wastegate, 50 mm blowoff valve, Turbobandit intake, 90 mm throttle body, and stainless exhaust manifold. Is it possible to have 5-speed w/ this engine? Probably $15k min, but you'd have a torque monster that'd be just as interesting (or more) than a V8 S124. via Oppositelock. 20cm is slightly too long). : 119975 12 021689 Transmission: 722366 04 102785 744U Brilliant Silver 7181 Stratus Gray (cladding) 268 E420 I can still find/source a good E420, any idea of the prices how much should I be paying for a car with not near to immaculate but runs and drives strong with no rust spots and corrosions with no accidents or damage reports. '84 Euro 500SE, '85 Euro 2.3-16, '51 Euro 170S, '97 Jeep Wrangler Sport, '15 G63 AMG. These are the prices for the 95 E320 two years ago: $575.00 124 440 56 32 (early model run) $714.76 124 440 29 33 (late model run) You can type in these part numbers (or the number on your current harness) on FastLane to determine the current prices. Originally It uses a V6 e not a straight 6, right? There are two approaches to getting the wiring completed for this swap. M119 upper engine harness - how to rewire temp plug? easist way for me would be add two injector before throttle body, let a a along ecu to fire them with rpm sensing. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. Front of block: 350SDL "Diesel" crank (Now not just limited to L series fun for strokers!) ..looking in that engine bay I understand why, https://teamlovetap.com/the-only-w209-driftcar-in-the-world. I generaly like motors bigger than4cylunless they are turbo. The site includes MB Forums, News, Galleries, Publications, Classifieds, Events and much more! Is a swap possible? Mercedes-Benz Sedan / Coupe / Wagon Forums, tongue-in-cheek - Definition from the Merriam-Webster Online Dictionary. It rides on a set of Cosmis Racing XT206R wheels with 189.5-inch in front and 1811-inch in back. Source: Team Lovetap (project page), Team Lovetap FB page, Auto-Gruppen FB page, and Drifted. Alright, putting a 94 M104 into a 89 2.6 5spd W201 (Green/Black). It's 80%. So my question is, can I just find a used M104 3.2 liter engine and ECU, and toss it into my car? Ok got it all nearly wrapped up this past week, around 60 hours or so to turn key M104. It doesn't get over 300 horsepower but its pretty quick. The suspension features factory Mercedes subframes with custom front and rear control arms and KW 3-way adjustable coilovers. Power will be greater with an LS swap. I believe that the M102, M103 and M104 bellhousing patterns are the same, meaning you can mount a 5-speed transmission from a 300E or 190E onto your M104. It is the newer 24valve m104 engine. Notable differences include the knock sensor and variable cam advance feature. Most E420's do not have ASR nor heated seats. Also note that the 1992 M119 engine is a KE-Jetronic engine, whereas the M119 as used in the 500E is LH-Jetronic, and the injection as used on the M104 you mentioned is HFM (essentially Motronic). 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